isolate and concentrate

ursula · Post by **ursula** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 06:33

Does anyone know whether,if you use soy protein isolate instead of concentrate is the amount used interchangeable?
Would this produce a more juicy sausage? Any disadvantage to using this one instead?
Regards Ursula

crustyo44 · Post by **crustyo44** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 07:09

Hi Angela,
There is a difference. The Soy Protein Concentrate in Australia is mostly 70%. Soy Isolate is around 90% and holds a lot more water, so it is not interchangeable.
I am experimenting with the Isolate in frankfurts but I will also try the Concentrate.
The 70% Concentrate is available from Master Butchers Co-op in Adelaide.
I can't source the 70% in Brisbane at all.
I will keep you informed, hopefully some other members with much more knowledge and experience than me will no doubt give some better advise.
Regards,
Jan.

Chuckwagon · Post by **Chuckwagon** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 08:42

Crusty, you ol' salty dog!
That is a terrific answer. Well done. Someone will no doubt refer Ursula to the use of phosphates for its moisture-holding ability and many sausage makers use it. I don't, but it's just my opinion. To read more about phosphates, soy protein isolate, and soy protein concentrate, see this link: http://wedlinydomowe.pl/en/viewtopic.php?t=5182&start=0
Be sure to read the second page for the findings regarding phosphates posted by a Russian group of scientists in Moscow.

Best Wishes,
Chuckwagon

ursula · Post by **ursula** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:25

Thanks Jan and Chuckwagon,
Jan, the reason I was leaning towards using the isolate is that I have sourced it t Bulk Nutrients for only $19 a kilo, while the 70% seems harder to locate. (I will try Master Butchers if necessary)
Thank you for the link Chuckwagon. You are an amazing resource. Are there any disadvantages to using the isolate? It seems to be the most affordable form I can acquire here.
Warm wishes to you both
Ursula

crustyo44 · Post by **crustyo44** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:05

Hi Ursula,
Soy Isolate for $ 19.00 a kilo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Wow, they saw you coming for miles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just bought the same from Denco Trading, virtually next door to me for $ 8.00 for 1 kg container.
Have a look at their website, Good people, I also met the owner. They don't sell 70% concentrate.
Master Butchers in Adelaide have Soy Protein Concentrate 70% for $ 26.85 for 5 kg.
Matter of fact, I am going to order it next week, at least then I have both.
Best Regards,
Jan.

ursula · Post by **ursula** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 01:51

Thanks Jan,
I'll do the same. How terrific to have someone do the homework for me!
Let me know if you see a difference in the results after you have tried both.
Warm regards Ursula

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