Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 18:07
Hi everyone, this is my first post. I am just beginning with charcuterie and still reading about stuff. So far i have only made pastrami and will now move on to sausgae/salamis.
Anyway...ive bought some starter cultures (t-spx) to make salami Genoa but there seems to be a bit of debate about their usage. In general, Ruhlman says a quarter pack for smaller ammounts/batches etc.yet on here marianski goes for 0.12!
T-SPX culture 0.12 g use scale
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Thats a very very small amount and i was worried about that. Does the starter culture have any bearing on safety/pathogens etc or is it simply there for flavour? I notice other recipes have no starter culture in them, even though they are salamis.
I still get a bit confused with the terming or categorising between fermented and dry cured sausage. Fermented is old school without the starter culture, i gather and requires specific conditions. Is Salami that is airdried with the starter culture still considered fermented and if so, are the conditions needed a lot different from the old school method?
I just worry im going to kill myself and my family if i dont get this clear in my head and there is a lot of grey area here and contradiction in general. An example:
Dry and semi-dry sausages are possibly the largest category of dried meats, particularly in the United States. These products can be fermented by bacterial growth for preservation and to produce the typical tangy flavor. Alternatively, they may be cultured with lactic acid - much as cheese, pickle, and yogurt makers do - to eliminate the fermentation phase and shorten the process. They are, with a few exceptions, cooked.
In this procedure, a mixture of curing ingredients, such as salt and sodium nitrite, and a "starter" culture of lactic acid-bacteria, is mixed with chopped and ground meat, placed in casings, fermented and then dried by a carefully controlled, long, continuous air-drying process.
Thanks in advance.
andre
Anyway...ive bought some starter cultures (t-spx) to make salami Genoa but there seems to be a bit of debate about their usage. In general, Ruhlman says a quarter pack for smaller ammounts/batches etc.yet on here marianski goes for 0.12!
T-SPX culture 0.12 g use scale
Quote:
Thats a very very small amount and i was worried about that. Does the starter culture have any bearing on safety/pathogens etc or is it simply there for flavour? I notice other recipes have no starter culture in them, even though they are salamis.
I still get a bit confused with the terming or categorising between fermented and dry cured sausage. Fermented is old school without the starter culture, i gather and requires specific conditions. Is Salami that is airdried with the starter culture still considered fermented and if so, are the conditions needed a lot different from the old school method?
I just worry im going to kill myself and my family if i dont get this clear in my head and there is a lot of grey area here and contradiction in general. An example:
Dry and semi-dry sausages are possibly the largest category of dried meats, particularly in the United States. These products can be fermented by bacterial growth for preservation and to produce the typical tangy flavor. Alternatively, they may be cultured with lactic acid - much as cheese, pickle, and yogurt makers do - to eliminate the fermentation phase and shorten the process. They are, with a few exceptions, cooked.
In this procedure, a mixture of curing ingredients, such as salt and sodium nitrite, and a "starter" culture of lactic acid-bacteria, is mixed with chopped and ground meat, placed in casings, fermented and then dried by a carefully controlled, long, continuous air-drying process.
Thanks in advance.
andre