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Jalapeno Cheddar Summer Sausage

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 21:14
by cat797
Hi there,

I'm looking for a little advice on summer sausage. I am new to the world of making sausage and want to make sure that I am doing it safely.

There is always talk about botulism when using fresh ingredients in a cured smoked sausage. I am trying to figure out what I can and what I can't do when making a summer sausage.....

Our local locker makes SS with jalapenos and cheddar cheese in it.....Is he using freeze-dried? Could you use fresh that have been blanched?

Also, if botulism grows on the peppers, wouldn't it also grow when using the cheese? Or for that matter, why doesn't the meat foster the growth of it?

Thanks for the help and understanding in advance! :wink:

Ed

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 01:07
by CrankyBuzzard
I sure cant help with the SS questions since I do mainly raw and smoked sausages, but I did want to say welcome to the forum!

I'm sure someone will come along soon with just the advice and answers you need.

Charlie

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 01:13
by ssorllih
Cat, sodium nitrite is specific for inhibiting botulinum.

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 18:34
by cat797
Thanks guys......

Cranky, I'm referring to like deer sausage, which I believe would be hot smoked (i.e. not fermented). Wouldn't you just use Tenderquick or Prague #1?

I'm just worried about putting jalapeno's in it, but all the sausage I have gotten before had what appeared to be fresh jalapeno's in it, not powder. I have never seen the freeze-dried stuff though..........

All the best,
Ed

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 22:35
by ssorllih
Cat , Summer sausage is properly made as a fermented sausage. according to this recipe:http://www.wedlinydomowe.com/sausage-re ... er-sausage
When we get the Ph low enough the lactic acid inhibits the clostridium botulinum.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 00:59
by CrankyBuzzard
ssorllih wrote:Cat , Summer sausage is properly made as a fermented sausage. according to this recipe:http://www.wedlinydomowe.com/sausage-re ... er-sausage
When we get the Ph low enough the lactic acid inhibits the clostridium botulinum.
Cat, Ross is right on the money above.

Before we go much further, let me ask a couple of questions... Are you talking about summer sausage like you eat on a cracker with some cheese, or are you talking about a sausage that you toss on the grill to warm up and then serve?

Not questioning your intelligence, just making sure we are all on the same page since the 2 are worlds apart when it comes to making and prep.

Now, about the jalapeños, I use fresh jalapeños in some of my recipes, but they come from my plants, so i know what all theyve been exposed to. however, most times for the jalapeño cheddar I use pickled peppers that we make each year. That way I know the peppers are pathogen free and ready to go.

I also poach most all of my "fresh" sausages and then cool in a water bath so that I have an almost ready to eat product when I remove it from the freezer. Some will argue with me about this process, but that's how I was brought up and I like the end result. This also helps to prevent critters from growing inside my casings...

Regarding hot smoked, have you looked at this? Hot smoking

A lot of folks talk about hot smoking but are really just tossing sausages on the grill or in the pit and cooking until done. The link above will help you to get a nice smoke flavor and still be safe.

Now, when in doubt, use cure #1 for fresh sausages, and the critters Ross is talking about for the fermented blends...

Charlie

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 03:21
by cat797
Thanks guys.........sorry about my ignorance as I'm a rookie in the sausage world... :oops:

I followed the link that Ross provided and that is exactly what I am wanting to make. However I did not realize that that type of sausage was fermented. I've seen lots of recipes posted on other forums that never mention that part. They generally refer to just stuffing it in fibrous casings and then straight into the smoker. Dry heat first and then introducing to smoke and elevating temps til IT reaches 152.

Thanks for the info on the peppers, I will keep researching.......I just ordered my stuffer today!

Once again thanks...
Ed

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 03:46
by CrankyBuzzard
Ed,

Keep asking questions and keep on planning sausages!

Let us know where can help. None of us know it all, but all of us can try and help...

Now,, you know you'll have to share how you did!

Charlie

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 04:16
by ssorllih
Ed , if you ask a question and don't get a good for you answer ask another question. We will try to make the answer fit the question.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 05:21
by Chuckwagon

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 05:42
by ssorllih
Chuckwagon , I have a question regarding the addition of fresh vegatables in sausage and the introduction of pathogen by that route. You have mentioned the introduction of spoilage bacteria when you added fresh herbs to a sausage recipe. Will the inclusion of nitrites be suffient to inhibit the botulium growth in fermented sausage if we add fresh veggies?

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:33
by Chuckwagon
Ross ol` bud, I feel that I can speak first-hand about this because I was hospitalized with salmonella once and once again for something they never did figure out. Neither was my fault and in one case, a restaurant had left sausage out overnight and far into the next day. It was rough goin` pard, and I mean that literally! I was young and thought I was tough and smart. Sheeyuks, it turned out that I`m neither. Anyway, I`ve even tried my own basil from the garden and wound up tossing a 10 lb. batch because of a good start of brocotrix thermophacta developing literally overnight. These days, I simply do not add anything to the sausage that has not been sterilized! Of course, when making up "fresh" sausage on the spot - to be cooked immediately for consumption - it`s an entirely different matter. However, by casing sausage and by smoking sausage, you`re simply cutting off the oxygen and obligate anaerobic bacteria go to work right away. And just try leaving some in a plastic bowl covered with plastic wrap overnight! :roll: Forget it.

To answer your question directly... no! Sodium nitrite will protect against clostridium botulinum bacteria (whose spores produce the deadliest toxin known to man), but what about other stuff we need to be aware of also? Three pathogens in particular - Salmonella, Listeria, and Toxoplasma - are responsible for 1,500 deaths annually. Many of the pathogens of greatest concern today, were not even recognized as causes of food borne illness merely twenty years ago! They include Campylobacter jejuni, Escherichia coli O157:H7, Listeria monocytogenes, Cyclospora cayetanensis, and others. Clostridium perfringens is a nasty example of a microaerophile bacteria that grows without oxygen present. Staphylococcus aureus (present in the mouth, nose, and throat as well as on the skin and hair of many healthy people) often spread it by simply coughing or sneezing at any time during the sausage-making process. It may be accountable for the sickness of countless individuals. Shigella, also a rod-shaped pathogenic bacterium, is closely related to E.coli and salmonella. Usually ingested, it is the cause of severe dysentery. Also rod-shaped pathogens of the bacteria genus bacillus include Bacillus cereus, which causes a foodborne illness similar to that of staphyloccus. Some of the latest to be concerned with is the cyclospora cayetanensis. I don't that we'll ever get a handle on that one.

The best answer is to cook the meat to recommended temperatures to destroy most of these pathogenic and spoilage-type micro-organisms. Those with highly tolerant spores - such as clostridium botulinum - must be stopped by nitrite. Of course, when we make our fermented sausages (from raw meat), we depend upon a rather high salt content to keep the bacteria temporarily in check while the beneficial lactic acid bacteria go to work (producing acidity [pH]) and while the sausage dries to a point (Aw) where pathogenic bacteria are no longer a threat.

Recently, we have enjoyed seeing many good neighbors from Australia join our ranks at WD. I`ll bet most of them don`t realize that Australia reports an estimated five and a half million cases of food-borne illness every year, causing 18,000 hospitalizations and 120 deaths. Recently in Europe, two and a half million pounds of beef were recalled due to salmonella contamination. In the United States, a single ice cream producer affected 224,000 persons when salmonella contaminated products were placed on the market. Earlier, an outbreak of hepatitis A, resulting from the consumption of contaminated clams, affected some 300,000 individuals in China. In the United Kingdom, two million cases, (about 3,400 cases per 100,000 inhabitants), of food contamination are reported each year. In France, three quarters of a million people (1,210 cases for 100,000 inhabitants), report food contamination sicknesses annually. The problem creates an enormous social and economic strain on people in every country. In the United States alone, diseases caused by the major pathogens are estimated to cost over $35 billion dollars annually in medical costs and lost productivity. The really tragic thing is that MOST of it could be stopped with simple, sensible, food-handling precautions.

In my opinion, before someone even begins making sausages in his own home kitchen that others will consume, he MUST become familiar with the basics of food handling safety and gain at least a fundamental insight of microorganisms and their behavior. Without this knowledge, YOU may very easily harm someone most seriously. Making fresh sausage invariably involves the use of perfectly clean utensils and low processing temperatures. We must take advantage of every opportunity to lower the temperature of the meat during the various steps of processing sausage. Those of the cured, cooked, and smoked variety, require the same essentials, but further include the use of sodium nitrites and nitrates, higher salt content, and of course, higher cooking temperatures. And finally, if someone wishes to make any type of dried or semi-dried sausage, a basic understanding of the fermentation process becomes necessary, along with an elemental knowledge of unique, acid-producing, microorganisms and their behavior. In other words, because the meat in these sausages is not cooked during preparation or even upon consumption, a bit more "bacteria savvy" is required. Further, in making those great tasting, tangy, "fermented" sausages, familiarity with a few unique safety procedures involving yeast and mold microorganisms is essential. They include at least an elemental understanding of (1.) Water activity (Aw) - a measure of how much "bound" water is available to microorganisms, (2.) pH acidity - (potentiometric hydrogen ion concentration) - a measure of acidity or alkalinity in food, developing resistance against microbiological spoilage, and (3.) a little microbiology, including: (a.) molds, (b.) yeasts, and (c.) bacteria of three types: [1.] pathogenic, [2.] beneficial, and [3.] food spoilage.
So, ol` partner, NO, "the inclusion of nitrites" is not suffient "to inhibit the botulium growth in fermented sausage if we add fresh veggies". We must use every other resource we have available to remain healthy. Hope this has helped.

Best Wishes,
Chuckwagon

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 14:48
by ssorllih
Thank you ever so much Chuckwagon.